Christian Prisons Minister Criticizes Paris Hilton Over Her Promise To Aid Women

Christian prisons minister and former music industry svengali, Marty Angelo is said to have to written a letter to Paris Hilton “asking her to live up to her word in 2008,” after Paris told Larry King about her plans for helping prisoners to get “back on their feet.” Remember those comments?

This is what Paris Hilton said to Larry King: “I want to help set up a place where these women can get themselves back on their feet. A place with food, shelter and clothing and programs, kind of a transitional home. I know I can make a difference and hopefully stop this vicious circle of these people going in and out of jail.”

However, Angelo is disappointed because Paris still hasn’t fulfilled her promise.

Here’s what Angelo is saying: “I would like to see Paris Hilton live up to her word. Hilton needs to remember where she comes from now. She is no longer just a high society hotel heiress but an ex-convict who God helped through her jail sentence. She owes God big time.”

“Paris Hilton stated she felt God gave her ‘a new beginning’ and things were going to be different once she was released from jail. What is so different? Where is her new beginning? All I see her doing is running in and out of nightclubs and attending various social events. What is so new about that?” You can read the full article here.

Here’s my comments: When I read such comments, I get angry because it’s not completely accurate. However, it’s understandable, and I’m not surprised.

Well, first, Paris Hilton should never be considered or called an ex-convict, because that’s not what she should be known for. What Angelo said is kind of rude, but understandable, because I don’t think he’s aware that she’s an entertainer.

Second, Angelo says “What is so different? Where is her new beginning?” He adds that all he has seen her doing “is running in and out of nightclubs and attending various social events.” But if you’ve been visiting this website, you should know very well that this statement is false. Compare the Paris Hilton before her jail time and after. There’s a noticeable difference.

It used to be mostly about “nightclubs” and “social events,” but after her jail time, she started understanding that she has to concentrate on her work. She did a movie. She went traveling all over the world to promote herself and her products. She attended events to promote Can Can several times. And of course, the best part, she’s finally working on a new CD. The big different between now and then, is that she now knows her priorities, and it’s not just about partying. I think I’ve repeated this many times before.

Third, I definitely agree with Angelo when he says Paris hasn’t fufilled her promise of helping women in prison. It’s true. And last summer I wrote a list of things that Paris said she would do. Her aunt, Kyle Richards, said she needed time to think about them, but we are all waiting. And she will be judged by us either way, but fairly!

However, personally, I believe any major charity work can be substituted in place of any promise she made last summer. The trip to Rwanda can be one of them, but it depends on how effective the trip is in achieving a positive and long term goal. We also need to know the purpose of the trip, first.

From: Dawn
Time: December 28, 2007, 3:37 pm

It seems that Paris was kicking around numerous possibilities at the time, that’s all. Many people do that.
As far as we know, Paris has helped out with some charitable events where she gave of her time and money. That’s what most celebs do.

This may not satisfy some people but Paris does not owe anyone any explanations.
Unless she signed a specific contract to do something,she is under no obligations.

If people feel so strongly that more should be done, perhaps they can give of their OWN time and money, instead of being so generous with other people’s money.

Also, Paris was in jail. Not in prison. Her offense was not a felony. People need to get over it and move on.
Perhaps they can petition the Hilton Foundation for further funding of just causes.

From: Django
Time: December 28, 2007, 3:41 pm

Yeah, the imaginary sky spook was a great help! That’s why Paris had to spend more time in jail than is average for the sentence. *rolls eyes*

I would like to think that Paris hasn’t given up on the idea of helping other inmates though. But it isn’t an obligation for her anymore than it is for anyone else and at least she is doing work to benefit charity. As at least one of the posters here has pointed out, Paris isn’t even among the ultra rich, so why don’t people pester them to put their money in their pockets.

From: admin
Time: December 28, 2007, 4:18 pm

Well, I disagree. The problem is that she was trying to win over the public when she said she was going to do major charity work.

I don’t think she can say whatever she wants about charity work, make the public like her, and then, act like she didn’t say anything.

It’s like Debella’s poem. I was really impressed when I heard that poem and thought she actually wrote it.

After the jail time, she was probably told to show to the public she was “sorry” and that she will do charity work, so that the public can “forgive” her. Remember the public doesn’t look at Paris the way we do.

She won over Angelo and other people’s heart, so to speak, with all those promises on Larry King, but now that everything is calm and going well, she can’t just ignore what she said.

It’s hard to explain, but I want Paris to be real, because there aren’t a lot of people like her. She has the potentials of doing a lot of great stuffs.

From: Dawn
Time: December 28, 2007, 5:51 pm

Paris is Paris and perhaps we need to stop trying to make her over. She has a right to be herself.

From: Karen
Time: December 28, 2007, 7:24 pm

I wonder if Hilton is thinking about her charity work when she is swinging around brass poles in Vegas? She is a sad excuse for tugging on people’s hearts when she is down and out only to thumb her nose at us and make like she’s changed. She hasn’t changed. Just because she shows up at this or that or produced a CD and movie. Who cares? It doesn’t mean she’s stopped her party lifestyle. Just look at her… dance around brass poles like a stripper. Where is the women’s home??? I wonder if she thinks about all the women she left behind at the jailhouse when swinging and partying?

From: Karen
Time: December 28, 2007, 8:34 pm

Paris Devours the Pole – 11/14/07

http://www.tmz.com/2007/11/14/paris-devours-the-pole

This is an excellent example of why people still think Paris has not changed very much. What in the world is she doing “pole dancing?” Is this the new Paris or the old Paris? Or… aren’t we suppose to care at all? Is this an example of being a role model to young teenage girls? Oh, I get it. She gets paid for all of this. This makes it ok. I guess the love of money is the root of all evil. She does not have to lower herself to this, unless she wants to, and it looks like she wants to. I am not a Paris hater. I just want to see her do something positive with her life beside look whorish for money. How much does she need before she starts her new life???

From: admin
Time: December 28, 2007, 8:34 pm

Well, there has been a significant change in her behavior. She never said she was going to stop partying. And going out once in a while is not a problem, especially now that she’s working a lot.

“Just because she shows up at this or that or produced a CD and movie. Who cares?”

The fans care a lot, actually. When she announced that she started working on a new CD, we were all very happy. I know for a fact that most people who visit this website are primarily fans because of her music. Her music seems to drive the visitors of this site nuts.

I also know that she is working very hard on her acting career. Repo! is going to be amazing. Overall, she’s taking her work very seriously now, which is a positive direction for her and her fans.

As for charity work, we’re still waiting. Unfortunately, interviewers almost never ask about her charity projects, except maybe about Rwanda and barely about the real projects, so we’ll just wait another six months and see what happens.

I also remember Larry King said he wanted to have her back on his show after six months (since the first interview). It’d be nice to see her again on Larry King Live.

From: admin
Time: December 28, 2007, 8:41 pm

“This is an excellent example of why people still think Paris has not changed very much.”

Actually, this is an excellent example of what most people report and talk about, when it comes to Paris.

I don’t see what’s wrong there. She’s doing a “pole dancing” and singing. She’s basically having fun.

People think she hasn’t changed because this is what they mostly hear and read about. And this is considered “important” news for the media, such as TMZ.

From: Karen
Time: December 28, 2007, 8:44 pm

I get it. Anything Paris Hilton does is ok with you. What is wrong with “pole dancing?” Oh.. nothing. “Just having a little fun.” This is exactly why the majority of the public and most of the media still reports negatively on Paris. When is she going to snap out of this behavior? You may say it is ok, but look at the “bigger picture.” Her “actions” speak much louder than her words. POLE DANCING? Give me a break.

From: Sabrinia
Time: December 28, 2007, 9:17 pm

Um there is NOT a single thing wrong with pole dancing. She’s young. She’s allowed to have fun. It’s not like she’s 46 and has kids she’s neglecting or something. Pole dancing does NOT make someone a bad person, horrible, or mean someone should be burned at the stake or something like that.

From: juju
Time: December 28, 2007, 9:39 pm

Dawn, sabrinia,

I agree with you 100%.

karen,

You need to get over yourself. Pole dancing is not evil. It is a current dance fad and happens to be great exercise. You clearly can’t see past the “stripper conotation’ with it. Old news. Please, get a grip already.

Also, paris owes you nothing! She has done a lot of charity work since leaving jail, the media just doesn’t report on it as much as they do reports on her going to a club. You seem to confuse reality with media reports. One has nothing to do with the other. Today’s media is just another market place. if they can make more money off of a person by reporting on them negatively, they will. Truth and accuracy be damned!

Also, in re a women’s half-way house; do you have any idea how long it takes to set this up? Let me clue you in, planning and permitting alone can take years! This doesn’t happen in 6 months, let alone over night. So quit judging already.

Same goes for the attention-seeking, so-called minister who is the subject of this article. Not very christ-like to be going to the media to call out someone for what their own self-important self thinks that other person should be doing. Maybe they need to look in the mirror at the logs tumbling out of their eyes before looking for specks in paris’ eyes. He/she just wanted to get in the media and bashing Paris is still a sure-fire way to do just that. I reallly don’t think that’s what Jesus would do. Same goes for Judi-nut.

Nobody has the right to tell another person what to do with their money or time. These sanctimonious assholes need to worry more about themselves and leave Paris alone. God is not publically keeping score, waiting for every opportunity to pounce so why are you?

She’s still only 26 years old. She has her whole life ahead of her to do things. Back-off already.

From: Django
Time: December 29, 2007, 4:36 am

If you really think “who cares?” then why are you visiting a site to bash Paris? There are things I don’t like or don’t care about, but you won’t find me looking for fansites to bash. In those cases I GENUINELY don’t care.

And pole dancing is some great evil to the world or something to judge anyone on? What year is this and why are so many people such judgemental sheltered prudes over the littlest thing? Who is it harming? Where is Paris forcing anyone else to do the same? Why is having fun at a club such a bad thing?

Another thing I’m sick of is people like this and in the media attacking and criticising Paris every chance they get (and more often than not pretending some moral highground). “Wah wah wah, how dare Paris breath oxygen – she’s keeping it from other people who need it more!” “Wah wah wah, how dare Paris be born – think of who could have been born in her place!” And I’m sure all these parasites are such valuable humans, every one of them *rolls eyes* As others have stated, Paris has done charity work in the last six months but nothing would ever be good enough for the haters and the “I’m not a hater but hate hate hate”s.

From: Karen
Time: December 29, 2007, 8:31 am

Like I said before. Anything Paris Hilton does seems to be ok with all on this site.

Terrific. I am not judging. She is the one who made the statements on Larry King… not you or anyone other Paris hater or lover.

When is one’s word not to be taken seriously? If she wanted sympathy or understanding why bring up God and make statements of wanting to help inmates?

Why say she is concerned with helping the women left behind in the jail? Why should she be wasting her time “pole dancing” when she is the only who should be held accountable for her words via her actions.

Why shouldn’t a minister have the right to challenge the very words that came out of her mouth on national television? She is the one who said the statements? When she dragged God into the equation, is it no surprise that people want to take her seriously? Why should she not live up to her words? Is it going to kill her? Who is going to get hurt? Certainly not her. What about the inmates? Does she not care anymore about them? I am sure they put up with her whining and bo-hooing and took her seriously when she said she wanted to help them.

She is the one who said she wanted to live a different life. Just because you say she is working on CDs and movies isn’t anything new. She did that in her old life before jail. She danced on tables before going to jail. She danced around poles before she went to jail. PLEASE someone tell us what is she doing so different now? Please do not just say drinking and driving, because that is something we all should not be doing. She “planned” on going to Rwanda? But did she go? She gave some items to auction off on Ebay for her “mother’s” fundraiser?

Is it any wonder people still trash Paris? Where’s the beef, Paris? You talk out of both sides of your mouth. You do not want anyone to hold you accountable for your words and actions. Just stream through life saying and doing whatever you like. Then if someone holds you accountable, you run and hide back in your nightclubs because you know no other lifestyle.

Just look what is coming up on New Year’s Eve, another big Las Vegas party! Yippie! Why not take about a month off and sit down with the Hilton hotel staff and come up with a plan to help those women inmates at Lynwood?

She has her hands in the deep pockets of nightclub owners and there ya have it!! That is about the only thing the public sees because that is all Paris Hilton is doing that is newsworthy. PERIOD!

Do you folks just roll over and agree with everything this women says or does? Paris Hilton brought up God. Paris Hilton said she was going to help women in jail.

Where’s the beef? It does not take a scientist to study the opening of a half-way house when you have a hotel chain staff as counselors.

Come on, give me a break. Paris was blowing smoke and mirrors wanting everyone to feel sorry for her.

She is lucky she did not kill someone with her drunk driving. Like the minister said to Paris…. “LIVE UP TO YOUR WORD” or apologize to the Lynwood jailhouse girls you promised you would help … and did not. HYPROCRITE!!!

From: Sabrinia
Time: December 29, 2007, 8:54 am

If you don’t like Paris (which clearly you don’t), then why are you on a fan site made for her? That’s just sad. There’s plenty of celebs I dislike such as Britney Spears, Cameron Diaz, etc but you won’t catch me trolling fan sites made for them. I have much better things to do with my time than that.

And when it comes to Paris’ charity work, if you’re so concerned with charity work why not instead of talking about her, you use your own time and energy to do some charity work.

From: Karen
Time: December 29, 2007, 9:08 am

Sabrinia …. you just don’t get it, do you? Someone needs to sit you down and explain what is being held accountable for your words and actions. This is not about bashing Paris Hilton. I do not dislike her. I actually love her. I want to see people stop bashing her. This is not the way life should be for Paris. She is so talented but all people see is her party side because that is all she really does that is newsworthy.

I am sure if the other celebs you mentioned said they were going to help people in jail and they didn’t I am sure someone would hold them accountable.

Why make statements at all? Parisis a celeb who went on national television one day after coming out of jail and said what she said … then … thumbed her nose at the world almost immediately afterwards. What does that tell you? Why are you so opposed at people wanting to know why she even did that or said what she said?

I am sure Paris thought hard and long before going on Larry King Live. If not, then she would not have appeared. You are not talking about a rookie here. Paris knows the ropes.

Fansite? You are a fan? Why? Do you not hold up your celeb to her words or her actions? Do you just let them do or say whatever they please and still be their fan?

I love Paris Hilton. I am not a basher. I WANT to see her do good in her life. But nothing good ever comes from going in and out of nightclubs. What message does that say to young teenagers? Does she not care? Is the money they pay her the important factor? If so, guess what? There will always be negative press around Paris Hilton because she just does not get it! Nor do most of her “fans” on this site.

From: Django
Time: December 29, 2007, 10:19 am

You have the sheer audacity to refer to others on this site as “fans” in sarcastic inverted commas! That really takes the cake! You claim you love Paris and yet you wallow in criticising every single thing about her. I guess that’s what they call tough love? You also seem to have missed the part where admin disagreed with some of us and did want Paris to be held accountable, just so you could make a sweeping statement about everyone. You even try to make her out as some kind of near murderer when her DUI was fairly minimal next to many similar incidents that attract less hate and follow up attention. I’d feel deeply sorry for Paris if you were any kind of example of the type of person who really “love”d her.

And is it really so far, that being a celebrity means that you can never go to a nightclub because it might send out the wrong message to teenagers? That’s just an example of the kind of ridiculous thing that haters always call Paris on. She’s never allowed to do anything, even if plenty of other people get to do the same thing. What other celebrity on the planet is subjected to this kind of ultra-analysis of every step and breath they take (by someone who “love”s them of course)?

Paris’s charity work includes more than just giving items to her mother’s auctions. Percentages of Can Can, her clothing line and Rich Prosecco sales go to charity. Paris has auctioned off a night out with her to a cancer charity and bid at a charity auction, among others. The Rwanda trip is postponed through no fault of Paris’s (something that you could tell some people until you were blue in the face without it getting through). Sure, Paris is using her fame and products, but what’s she supposed to do – work down a mine? Paris is famous and uses her fame for good ends sometimes, but she’s a human being entitled to live her own life and have her own fun. Hell, most of her good deeds or good words in interviews just get ignored at large by the press, but if Paris stands in a puddle and makes a little comment then hey presto – it’s all over the internet! There’s far richer people that aren’t being chased down and being told how to live their life or handle their fortune. You may think the rest of us are fawning fans, but you’re the only one who seems to think you actually own a piece of her (no wonder she has a bodyguard)!

I don’t think that anyone is opposed to the question of whether Paris will follow on her word to help the inmates. I’d like to think that she will or will have good reasons for not doing so. I just won’t judge her on one thing when I think she is a genuinely good person and primarily her own person and a entertainer. Many of us became fans because of her personality, The Simple Life, her movies, her book or her music – not based on how much charity she does. I might be disappointed in her if Paris gives up on the inmates project without good reason, but I won’t be jumping on any hate or criticising her at every opportunity bandwagon (but there’s already enough people in the world that will do that anyway).

From: Karen
Time: December 29, 2007, 10:46 am

Your statement: “being a celebrity means that you can never go to a nightclub because it might send out the wrong message to teenagers?”

All Paris Hilton ever does “newsworthy” is go in and out of nightclubs!! She has no concern if she sets a bad example of continuing in a lifestyle that got her in trouble in the first place. Aren’t we suppose to learn from our mistakes? Isn’t that was she meant by God giving her a “new beginning?”

What is it? New Paris…. Old Paris? When did the “clubbing” ever stop? She gets paid big bucks for her personal appearances. Great! She deserves it. I hope she deposits all of that money into her bank account and stays up late at night looking at her checkbook balance and say, “Wow…. weeeeee!!! Look at all my money!!! Woopeee!!!”

It does not matter what you have to say here … nor what I have to say here…. none of us are right. Only Paris Hilton knows Paris Hilton. She should just learn to not make statement she can not live up to that’s all.

My sister was in jail when Paris served her time at Lynwood. I agree with the minister totally. My sister has nowhere to go upon her release. I am sure all of you are going to say, “Ahhhh… isn’t that too bad… sniff…. sniff.” Don’t worry our family will take care of her. Miss Hilton needed worry.

It seems like the media knew she was full of it when she walked out of the jail. Time is just proving them all right.

I just wonder when Miss Hilton is going to sick and tired of being sick and tired? She tried the “poor me” bit once before and it worked in the media. I wonder what she will try her next go round? Because you know something? There will be a next time if she continues to think nightclubbing is right. The woman has spent most of her life in clubs. It is not just “once in a while.” Spare me!! She gets PAID to go in them. But, it does not make it right. No matter what you fans think or say or do to defend her. An occasional club is fine for most other celebs. Not Paris Hilton. Nope! Might as well milk it for everything she can. Who cares what the media says about it? Who cares what ministers say about it? Who cares? Who cares? Who cares?

Maybe once she gets her bank account nice and fat she might think about helping those she so boldly proclaimed she would do on national television. Until then… have a nice life!

Good day….. I won’t be back. I am sure you will say …”Good riddance” Have a great live supporting a hypocrite.

From: Django
Time: December 29, 2007, 10:51 am

Added to that, I’m done on this particular topic. I’m taking a deep breath and a step back. The fact is that I hate arguing (especially heated ones) as much as I hate seeing people say or write nasty things about Paris. Maybe this Karen is actually a nice person away from the internet. I don’t know her and can’t judge her in that capacity. All I know is that I, like others here, strongly disagree and I strongly feel my opinions of Paris as strongly as people like her seem to feel theirs. I’ll just say that I’m glad there’s also people like Sabrinia, Dawn, juju, Kevin and the occassional visit from thewaymouth – fans whom I can actually relate to in some part at least and whom I know will give Paris real fan support without criticising her every move. Anyway, I’d hate to see such a wonderful fansite turn into the kind of ugly battleground that so many other places on the internet become.

From: Karen
Time: December 29, 2007, 11:29 am

If this website didn’t want an comment about this subject then they should have thought twice about posting the minister’s story.

People have their own individual right to respond accordingly. We are only stating our opinions. That’s all.

Sorry if I stepped on too many feet. Please don’t take it personal.

Long live Paris!! She will forever be held dear in our hearts.

From: thewaymouth
Time: December 30, 2007, 1:32 am

* @ 10:46 Karen says, “I won’t be back… Have a great live supporting a hypocrite.”

@ 11:29 She’s back yapping some more. Talk about “hypocrite.” But hey, a woman is always entitled to change her mind. Right? Or maybe only just some women.

*What did Paris go to jail for? Driving with a suspended license, suspended because of a drunk driving conviction. She has had no driving violations of any kind since. She learned her lesson. She IS setting a good example on that score.

She never said she was going to stop going dancing. There is NO law against clubbing. There is no law against having fun.

* As was alluded to above: 10/26/07 Paris – who was planning a five-day trip to the poverty-stricken African country in November – was told by the Playing for Good Foundation, the celebrity charity organization sponsoring the visit, that the tour has been “regrettably rescheduled.”

The charity said in a statement: “Due to the restructuring of the Playing for Good Foundation, the philanthropic trip to Rwanda that the foundation had previously planned with Paris Hilton has been postponed.”

“Paris has been a loyal and gracious supporter of Playing for Good but the foundation has to regrettably reschedule this trip.”

“We would like to thank Ms. Hilton for her generosity and her continued support of this initiative and are looking forward to rescheduling the trip with her at a later time.”

SO… The trip was postponed, NOT canceled. & the trip was NOT postponed by Paris.

& as far as the women’s half-way house, there could even be planning already underway for that.

BTW, Paris is now not an hotel-heiress, is not inheriting her grandfather’s fortune. She works, earns her own money, and donates her own money.

* 08/16/07 PARIS spent an hour before her clothing line launch event at Kitson, meeting with sick kids from LA’s Children’s Hospital, and 20% of the sales that day were donated by the store to what is now one of her favorite charities.

* 08/28/07 Paris Hilton cochaired the annual amfAR fund-raiser to benefit event to support AIDS research. (Since 1985, amfAR has invested $260 million in its programs and has awarded grants to more than 2,000 research teams worldwide.)

*Former music industry svengali Marty Angelo has written to Hilton asking her to live up to her word in 2008 after telling broadcaster Larry King of her plans to help get prisoners “back on their feet.”

So he has written to Paris. Fine. I got no “beef” with that. But if he is writing a letter to her, why not give her a chance to read it, wait for a response? Why instead is he announcing his letter publicly, and berating her at the same time? To publicly shame her into it? Shame on him.

John 8:7 “Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.”

Matt. 7:1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged.”

Matthew 6:1-4 “Be careful not to do your ‘acts of righteousness’ before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full. But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.”

From: Karen
Time: December 30, 2007, 7:55 am

Ok… the waymouth… just checked to see if there were anymore comments … and look who shows up. Well… I am back.

A mninister has all the right in the world to hold someone accountable when they go on public television stateing God changed their life…. and is going to give back by doing something for others.

Who else should speak up? Let’s look at the Rev. Al Sharpton, the REV. Jessie Jackson… do they not speak up and show up in the media when they feel an injustice has been done? They are all over the place saying whatever they want whenever they want.

Paris Hilton made the statement… not the minister… so don’t go trying to kill the messenger. If he sees Hilton running in and out of bars… why shouldn’t he speak up? We certainly do not see Miss Hilton running in and out of churches… now do we? Where is the balance… mouth?

There is nothing worse than pulling scriptures out of the Bible and tossing them at someone. It looks like this minister sent Hilton a letter over a month ago. I took the time to read it because I have a sister sitting in Lynwood jail asking if there is anything our family can do for her upon her release.

Please do not negate Hilton’s crimes. She is the one who went to jail… not the minister. It looks like this minister even offered to do Hilton’s time for her as well. What more can a minister do for someone? I doubt if he means wrong. He is not the one pole dancing and getting paid to party in nightclubs. Miss Hilton is. She is the one who said God changed her life… not the minister.

Throughout the Bible people killed the messenger instead of listening to what the messenger had to say.

Don’t just love the part of the transcript when Larry King asked Paris what her favorite scripture was? ZERO!! Maybe you, Mouth… should forward a few of your favorites to her so she might learn something. Nothing like getting put on the spot by Larry King! Good one, Paris.

I hope you take just as much time helping Miss Hilton come to grips with her “new beginning.” She looks like she is doing a real good job.

There are plenty of other charities out there. Maybe she will find one while she is spinning around one of her dancing poles in Hollywood and Vegas hotspots.

Please…. I hope you want to get in the last word… cause I will check back every so often. This is fun.

Dear Paris …. where is the women’s transition house??? You and your rich family could build one in a New York minute. Just one little piece of Baron’s fortures would do it. It could happen overnight… especially when his darling granddaughter said she was going to do it on national television. Come on…. Hilton’s … put your money where you big mouths are. You only have billions.

From: Django
Time: December 30, 2007, 8:54 am

Well now that this Karen has indeed shown their true colours – as the vilest most foaming at the mouth rabid type of hater, I might as well join her as a hypocrite and add my piece to what she has said. Didn’t take her long to go from “long live Paris” to yet more vicious accusations did it.

In truth I don’t have much to say to her or this topic any longer. It is clear from her posts that she refuses to acknowledge much of what anyone says to her. Paris’s charity work gets ignored. Paris’s work in general gets ignored. This hater claims that the only “newsworthy” thing Paris does is go to nightclubs. Why are visits to nightclubs newsworthy when she seems to think that making new movies, launching a new perfume or charity work aren’t?

Poledancing seems to be a big issue to her, and along with her religious crap, it isn’t really surprising (what’s next? Watching horror movies, listening to heavy metal or using contraception makes you evil?). What authority does a minister have to tell anyone about anything? What extra privilige does reading laughable Bronze Age superstition really give anyone? By all means, I wish Paris hadn’t said anything about the bible or any imaginary god, but maybe that was just the way she was brought up and she’s never given it much thought (something that’s true of many good people in the world I’m sure). Paris is criticised for not having a favourite bible passage? HA! Reading a book or liking a book doesn’t always mean that you have a favourite passage to quote on demand. Hell, I bet many christians don’t even read their whole bible anyway – that’s why so many otherwise intelligent and enlightened people of the modern age can still be christians or muslims or whatever in the first place. They cherry pick the bits they agree with or what makes sense to them and ignore all the hate, their god’s petty jealousy, the genocide, the bizarre laws etc.

Why don’t haters like this go after Paris’s grandfather? He’s the big philanthropist that wants to give to charity after all. Why not get him to fund whatever your pet project of the week is?

Clearly there’s nothing to be gained from arguing with such disgusting deranged people as this. They just want to hate hate hate, ignore most of what’s said to them and pat themselves on the back that all their inhuman hate is instead some kind of self righteousness or moral highground. It’s like trying to argue with the kind of religious fundamentalist lunatics (and their middle ages pre-Enlightenment mindset) that this person probably regards as heroes or great visionaries. I just wish such people would take their hate off to the kind of sites and forums where such things are appreciated. It’s a sad day for a wonderful fansite if this kind of hateful zealot is an indication of it’s future.

From: Karen
Time: December 30, 2007, 9:08 am

Again….. let’s kill the messenger!!!!!

Hilton said it … does whatever she wants … and you are there to defend her. Excellent! There is an old saying….. something like “putting one’s foot in one’s mouth.”

There is also an old saying … written by Noel Webster… author of the dictinonary….. “Education without the Bible is useless.” So good luck leading your life without it fool. You are going to need all the luck in the world.

Let’s all go to a bar today.. it’s Sunday! We will all learn so much there. Then… we can all turn out like our role model and goodess… Paris Hilton. I wonder what church she is going to today? OH … that’s right… there is no need to go to one because she can learn just as much at a nightclub.

Don’t you people see the bigger picture here?

What happens when you follow a blind person who falls into a ditch?

From: enbis78
Time: December 30, 2007, 10:45 am

Going to nightclubs is not a crime! Poledancing is not a crime! Having fun is not a crime! Dancing in a sexually suggestive way is not the work of the devil, corrupting the youth, as Karen seems to imply.

Why does anybody think that they have the right to sit in judgement on Paris? She is not answerable to Angelo, Karen or anybody else. She has done work for charity. Give her some time, and perhaps she will do something to help the prisoners. I hope she does, but I won’t be judging her morality as a human being on the basis of whether or not she does so and when. She is only 6 months away from the most hellish and traumatic experience of her life. Give her time and space to move on and to live her own life and perhaps in time she will follow up on what she mentioned on Larry King.

When the Rwanda trip eventually goes ahead, she will be using her fame and status to raise money and publicity for some of the poorest people on earth. Do you think the people who eventually benefit from this will care if she also dances in nightclubs? Or that she gets paid for it?

Also, the work Paris is doing on the movie and the music may not be charitable so Karen doesn’t care but WE DO. The work of Paris as an entertainer makes people (her fans) happy, and that’s why it’s true, as other posters have suggested, that there is genuinely a new direction and focus to her life. But that doesn’t mean she shouldn’t be allowed to enjoy herself and live her life as she sees fit to do so.

If people like Karen aren’t happy with the way she chooses to live, I suggest she ignores Paris entirely instead of sitting on her high horse in judgement of someone who has achieved more in her life than Karen probably ever will, and who has been a positive, inspiring role model for the many, many people who appreciate her talents and look up to her. That is the positive impact that Paris Hilton has had on peoples’ lives, including mine, and she deserves more respect than this!

From: admin
Time: December 30, 2007, 10:54 am

Karen,

I think you’re more angry because of the situation your sister is in. And I find that very unfortunate and sad. Paris said she was going to build a women’s transition house, but we haven’t about it since the interview.

However, the problem that most of us think you have, is that you exaggerate. You’re putting a lot of emphazie on her negative aspects rather than a bit more on her positive aspects. Dancing on a pole or whatever she was doing in the video is not something bad or offensive. I try to be as fair as possible. She’s definitely not a bad person, not perfect either, but far better than most heirs and heiresses.

What I was saying is that, she went to Larry King Live and told to the world that she was going to engage in major charity projects. She has done billions of minor charity works.

I remember, back then (see http://www.parishiltonsite.net/paris-hiltons-post-jail-pledges/), she said she was going to build a “Transition House” for L.A. ex-cons and a “Paris Hilton Playhouse” for kids (only to Ryan Seacrest and Barbara, if I remember correctly). She also said she wanted to continue working for the same causes: breast cancer, multiple sclerosis, AIDS, etc.

Do you remember if she mentioned any other major charity project other than the playhouse and transition house? There’s also the Rwanda trip, which has been postponed until 2008. However, as I said, I don’t know the exact purpose of this trip. I think she said she was going to donate hundreds of thousands of dollars at the end of the trip.

I personally think she was trying to win over the public because they had and still have a negative image of her. She is a public figure and we are the ones who are supporting her. It was like an agreement, but she also wanted to show people what they hadn’t seen.

Well, as I said, in my opinion and I agree with you, she should be “held accountable for her words via her actions.” And it was only a matter of time to see someone like Angelo speaking up because she did say she was going to build a Transition House. I even received a couple of letters from the relatives of Lynwood inmates, who were very happy to hear this from Paris.

I think we have to be patient, and I’m sure one day, some interview will ask her about her charity projects. But there’s no need to over-exaggerate because overall, she is a smart entertainer and a good person.

From: Karen
Time: December 30, 2007, 12:03 pm

I think many people were expecting Paris to change her “party image” lifestyle. I mean, what else needed to change? What? Maybe drive without drinking? Please .. there are laws we all have to obey. That is not something “new.” Giving time and money is nothing new to the Hilton clan nor anyone else’s. There are big tax breaks for such.

SO, I agree with the prison minister. What did she mean by God giving her a “new beginning?” A new beginning to do what? What was suppose to change? Her work ethic? Please… the girl works harder than anyone. That did not need to change. She doesn’t have to put out more CDs… make more movies… give more money or time to charities. People “know” she is good at that.

SO… why would she go on national television, drag God into this, and tell people she was going to change? That she learned her lesson? And that God was giving a her a new beginning? This is totally mindboggling to many people and can see why the minister is taking issue with her.

Do you see cameras following Paris into church? Do you see her attending bible studies? Do you see her praying with others? What does the public see her doing other than doing what she has been doing before her jail sentence?

Her trip to Africa is a nice gesture …. however, there is a real image problem that out of one side of her mouth she says is going to change, and the other side she has her hands in clubowners pockets and says “hey… a girl has to work!”

MANY MANY MANY people are confused at a person who says one thing… and does something completely and totally contrarily to anyone else’s definition of “changing one’s life.”

I mean… let’s get serious here for a minute. What really has changed? Oh…. she doesn’t drink and drive. Oh… welcome to the real work, Paris.

Maybe she should apologize to the people she said she was going to help…. take back what she said about being given a “new beginning” and go about her life. People want to take her for her word. All she seems to be doing is thumbing her nose at everyone.. with a “careless Britney Spears” attitude… all with a big Paris Hilton smile while saying….”Look don’t just love me… I can do and say anything I want… and no one can say anything.. cause I am Paris Hilton.”

When is all this “change” suppose to be happening, Paris? We have been waiting six months. Let’s see you took two Hawaii trips, hosted party upon party, danced in how many nightclubs? Oh yes… you worked and give to charity. Nice.

But… what has changed? What?

My sister believed you when you told her you were going to help her and the others you left behind. Your fans should be up in arms instead of sitting here dumping all over me. See what happens when you bullshit people.

From: Django
Time: December 30, 2007, 12:09 pm

enbis78 – wise words, but unfortunately people like this are too down the deranged and bigoted path to listen to anything anyone has to say. I think you speak for a lot of Paris’s real fans though and you should be proud for that.

Religious nut – I do NOT know whether to laugh or vomit at your level of derangement. You know what? Although I was never quite idiot enough to unquestiongly follow organised religion, I still used to believe in something called “god”. And guess what? He/she/it is not there. You think you and your sister (assuming she exists) are the only ones with problems or that have went through bad times or believed there was some good entity answering prayers? NOTHING THERE! We make our own way in the world. Morality is a part of evolution (team work and helping others can be observed in some animals) and has grown with us (which is why most rational people would be APALLED at some of the crap that ancient religious myths ask us to believe as “morality”). You can live a fulfilled, compassionate, caring life without superstition, without evoking sky gods and without blaming a celebrity for your problems. I hope one day you get smart enough to realise that and find the therapy you obviously need to get you through your issues. Don’t go down some crazed Mark Chapman route.

From: admin
Time: December 30, 2007, 12:37 pm

Karen,

You are asking us what has changed, but I already answered this question.

About the “new beginning,” I don’t know if you read the interview she did with People magazine, after her release.

But there’s a very important quote that you probably overlooked in that interview. She said she wanted to take her work more seriously (something like that) and to get rid of people who weren’t good for her.

A “new beginning” meant she wanted to be more serious and mature (party less). Part of the “new beginning” was to engage in major charity works, which hasn’t happened, yet.

However, if you were a fan and if you were following for years the way we do, you’d realize that a lot of changed after the jail sentence, but I already explained this. It’s just that her work and art aren’t that important to you.

It used to be worse BEFORE the jail time when she was practically out and having fun all the time (except filming Simple Life 5 and “Hottie”). And now look, 2008 is going to be a big year for her with all her projects. She travelled around the world to promote herself, and getting ready to launch her movies and albums. Behind the scenes, she is working on her acting skills and voice. And this takes a lot of time. I personally think, only through her work, people are going to take her more seriously, and they’re going to realize that there’s more to her than just the partying and all that. This is all in the future. Whether her plain is going to be successful or not, I don’t know.

That’s what changed. A lot people misunderstood her, anyway.

From: Karen
Time: December 30, 2007, 12:44 pm

Out of the mouth of our “goddess” …..

HILTON: That’s something I was actually thinking a lot about in jail. I feel like, you know, being in the spotlight, I have a platform where I can raise awareness for so many great causes and just do so much with this, instead of, you know, superficial things like going out. I want to help raise money for kids and for breast cancer, multiple sclerosis and…

KING: You want to get involved in all of it.

HILTON: Yes.

KING: What’s your favorite Bible passage?

HILTON: I don’t have a favorite, but…

KING: You read it every day?

HILTON: In jail, I read a lot.

KING: Going to go to mass?

HILTON: Yes.

KING: All right. We’re going to see a new Paris Hilton.

HILTON: Yes.

KING: What will we see? Will we see less Paris Hilton, more Paris Hilton in a different way? Give us what the public will see of the new Paris Hilton, starting June 28th, 2007?

HILTON: I’ve definitely matured and grown a lot from this experience, so I just — I don’t know, I just want to be — I’m 26 years old. I’m an adult, and I have to just grow up and to be a more responsible role model because I’ve gotten a lot of letters from mothers and their daughters…

KING: We’ll know it.

HILTON: …look up to me and I want to be a good role model for these girls.

From: admin
Time: December 30, 2007, 12:48 pm

Paris and her family do go to church. How often? I don’t know, but she said during an interview that paparazzi doesn’t follow her when she goes to church.

I haven’t seen a video of her going to church, but just reporting what she said, although I have seen a video of her brother and parents going to church.

From: Karen
Time: December 30, 2007, 12:50 pm

HILTON – Yes. This I wrote — this is about the girls that are in there. “I have compassion for those I left behind at the prison. I am lucky enough that I have a home and a family to go to when I get out of here. Most of the women in here don’t have that option. They have to go back on the streets and some of them end up even back here because they don’t know where else to go.

“I want to help set up a place where these women can get themselves back on their feet. A place with food, shelter and clothing and programs, kind of a transitional home. I know I can make a difference and hopefully stop this vicious circle of these people going in and out of jail.”

Because they told me the average amount for a woman going in there, into Lynwood is 7.3 times. So literally women just go out on the street, they have nowhere to go and then they end up right back in there. I just feel like it’s a vicious circle. Some of these people are mothers and then their children end up in the system and it’s just — really, it’s sad.

From: Karen
Time: December 30, 2007, 12:58 pm

Yes . admin … and how many times have you seen her running in and out of nightclubs? Before and after jail? How many?

How many times have we seen her running in and out of church? NONE. WHY? Not because the media wouldn’t follow her there? Why? Because she just does not go.

You don’t think for a minute the media would not film Paris going into church? YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING. They would jump all over that…. ALL OVER THAT WITH A CAPITAL “J”

What photographer would not give his or her right arm to have the “first” photo of Paris Hilton going into church? It would make the front cover of People Magazine…. on

NAAAA … she is full of it just like everyone else who wants to use God one minute… then place Him on the shelf for the next round. Typical. Which is ok with me. I am not the one being called out on the carpet.

You say she has changed… you already explained … but you explained something that Paris has already done. She works… well what do you know? Wonderful… and now she is out of jail … and she works! Strike up the band. She makes movies, television shows, travels to good causes, EXCELLENT… But… she did that “before” as well.

Bye.. for now… Gotta go to ….”look out all you non-believers” cause she is going to say the “c” word… Church.

Love ya

From: Sabrinia
Time: December 30, 2007, 4:32 pm

Not EVERYTHING that Paris does is filmed/taken a photograph of. There’s been plenty of times where we’ve went several days, or even a week or two with not a single update on her. It’s quite possible that she and her family DO go to church but just are not followed. OR perhaps since the paparazzi do follow them they watch church on TV (ya know those ministers/preachers who preach early in the morning on Sunday?).

From: enbis78
Time: December 31, 2007, 6:29 am

This debate now seems to be getting increasingly bogged down (due to Karen’s insistance) in the irrelevant issue of whether Paris goes to a particular building in order to take part in religious celemonies. Personally, if she did, I don’t think the paparazzi would be interested, because this would be a story lacking either connotations of glamour, or the opportunity to put a negative spin on events.

But it’s irrelevant. As Django points out (and many religious people have a tough time recognizing this), human morality can be explained in evolutionary terms and does not depend on religion. I’m not religious but I respect the beliefs of those that are. In return, I would expect the same respect through an acknowledgement that I am not an immoral person because I don’t go to church. As for Paris, she is a self-proclaimed Christian and I respect that, but faith is surely a personal matter and she is entitled to affirm her belief in God without neccessarily going to church every week. Whether or not she does so has no bearing on her morality, spirituality or personal beliefs.

From: Karen
Time: December 31, 2007, 10:48 am

enbis78 – “This debate now seems to be getting increasingly bogged down (due to Karen’s insistance)”

This issue is about a prison minister’s letter to Hilton. It is not about much else. Where is it getting bogged down? You don’t have to comment. There are many other interesting news items posted where you can comment all you want.

There is nothing wrong with discussions… in fact, it is healthy. It gives one the opportunity to say what is on one’s heart in junction with our leader and example setter, Miss Paris Hilton.

You are right … buildings are not where God only meets people… He is everywhere… even in Vegas hotspots. If Hilton likes to only show her face in them for money and publicity… so be it. It truly is a wonderful opportunity for her.

You name me one photographer who would not love to have the first photo of Paris walking into church. I am sure if the Hilton camp put out the word that Paris was going to attend church on such-in-such Sunday they would be a mile deep of photographers ready to capture the historic event. Most would not believe it … but don’t think they would not gather.

Either way…. we all wish Paris a Happy New Year coming up today at her next big Vegas event. I am sure her pockets will be lined with gold which will allow her to continue in her luxurious lifestyle. Maybe one day she will live up to her promise to the women in the county lockup.

By the way …. Paris does not need to go to Rwanda to find people to help. She can do it right here in her own backyard… it is located in Lynwood California and called, Century Regional Detention Facility. That my dear friends…. is Paris Hilton’s real “Rwanda.”

Why is it most celebrities want to rush off to other countries to help people? Just look around and you can find plenty to do right here in the United States of America.

Paris could, … I say could, start right in Lynwood, where, I might add… she said she was going to open her transition house on national television long before her Rwanda vision.

One thing at a time, young lady. One thing at a time.

Good luck this 2008 …. We are all pulling for you to make it a good one.

From: juju
Time: December 31, 2007, 9:58 pm

karen,

You have offically established yourself as a cold-hearted nut-job, satisfied? i hope so. good-bye!

From: Karen
Time: January 1, 2008, 1:08 pm

Thank you juju….

I suppose this person was also a “cold-hearted nut job”:

President John F Kennedy – January 20 1961.

“And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.”

Paris Hilton made the statements about opening a transition home for women. She never mentioned running off to Rwanda. That came “after” she went on national television to win the sympathy of our courntry… and especially those who are concerned about people coming out of jail with no where to live.

Remember…. over 75% return to jail and prison in the first year of release. Those are the same folks to cause havoc across the U.S. Someone needs to step up to the plate to change thing here in America. And Hilton got a lot of people’s hopes up …. and this is what this press post is all about: “Her commitment to live up to her spoken word.” That’s it.

If she wants to run off to help other countries… that is fine. But please remember what this press post is all about.

Start first with your American’s commitments…. then branch out …. Stay the course with your vision God laid on your heart while in jail, Paris. Stay the course. Stay focused.

From: Dawn
Time: January 2, 2008, 10:34 am

Karen = Psycho

From: Sabrinia
Time: January 2, 2008, 10:58 am

The transition home was just an IDEA she had. It was something she was considering doing. She NEVER once said she was most definitely going to do one. Also it’s VERY possible she IS doing one. Do you know how long it’d take to get something like that underway, built and organized? It’d take a LONG time with finding the land, getting permits, having it built, finding the right employees, etc. It’s not something one can do overnight. It’s like Paris has mentioned having her own hotels separate from Hilton Hotels. Does that mean since as far as we know she hasn’t done that yet she’s not keeping her word or whatever? No! Once AGAIN merely an idea she was kicking around in an interview and there’s nothing wrong with that. And there’s NOTHING wrong with her wanting to go to Rwanda to help people. She has been doing charitable things and is considering her options for the future.
And instead of putting Paris on blast here, why not go use your time for something charitable since you seem to be oh so concerned about Paris.

From: Karen
Time: January 2, 2008, 4:02 pm

Dear Dawn, … now now young lady… settle downs… take your meds… and have yourself a nice little nap. No use getting yourself all worked up over someone siding with the prison minister. You will get over it in do time.

By the way… Paris was reading a note she wrote in jail regarding building the transition home for women. It wasn’t just a “thought” …. but an idea. She is the one who stated it live on national television.

I am sure everyone will get over Paris not living up to words. It is not the first time… nor will it be the last. I mean… after knocking down 500 grand in Las Vegas on New Years Eve, who needs to bother working on opening a home for women?

Believe me …. we will all get over this…. Don’t get all worked up… remember to take those meds. Nighty… night